saxongifts
Sep 16 2003, 03:15 PM
Hello:
We're going to start drop shipping products on our page and I'd like to ask if anyone could share some do's, don'ts, horror stories, etc.
My concern is selling a product that the wholesaler doesn't have instock. Seems like a let down for the customer and a pain in the neck refunding $ (if the customer doesn't want to wait for the back order).
What is the typical max time customers are willing to wait for a back ordered product before canceling the order? We're dealing with imported items (Germany mostly) and it can take 6-8 weeks to get items.
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Brian
ultimatekeychains
Sep 16 2003, 07:09 PM
We've been thinking of drop shipping as well. If anyone has experience with this I'm sure the whole

community would appreciate it if you could share your story
cbhale
Sep 16 2003, 09:47 PM
ultimatekeychains,
80% of my stuff is done on dropship! Let me know what information you are looking for and I will see if I can answer it for you!
pmdono
Sep 17 2003, 10:37 AM
One issue in dealing with drop shippers is that each supplier has different shipping providers. For example, one ships via UPS only, another supplier ships via UPS and USPS. It would be great to specify different shipping options by products or by drop ship supplier.
The other problem is that each drop ship supplier is in different parts of the country which impacts the shipping rates. Currently you can only specify one Shipping Origin. It would be helpful to identify each drop shipper and their respective shipping origin. In turn this would allow for more accurate final shipping price when utilizing multiple suppliers on one order.
Or maybe somebody has figured this out?
robert
Sep 17 2003, 10:56 AM
We've been asked to be a drop shipper but my concern has been that someone might sell something that is out of stock. We can usually get more of the item, but since we import from Indonesia it could take as long as 3 months (one month for the artisan to make after we order, a month on a ship, customs delays, and waiting for our next container to leave port).
This has led us to say know.
If there would be a way for drop shippers to link to our inventory so that our "out of stock" items are known to them in real time, that would be great!
Anyone solved this problem yet?
krazykickz
Sep 17 2003, 03:23 PM
Hi a few things to remember when drop shipping and if you cannot provide the following services to the "T" then I would not reccommend drop shipping:
1. Stock - If you cannot update your stock efficiently enough then dropshipping is not for you. Your drop shippers depend on you to be responsible so that they can offer the products to their customers.
If you do not have enough items to drop ship then do not drop ship. You cannot run a sucessful dropshipping site. I believe that to run a successful drop shipping site you have to have enough products for your clients to offer to their clients.
2. Provide a organized way for your customers to report their orders to you. Make sure you state cut off times for them to report their orders to you for shipping that day.
3. Make sure you list shipping fees and how billing will work is stated. For example if you require them to come to your site and pay first or if they are billed at the end of the month by a purchase order.
Make sure you ship items on time to their customer and provide them with tracking number and signature confirmation (for you protection)
I would also draw up a drop shipping agreement stating the policies, so there is no problems in the long run and if so you can pull out the agreement.
List return policies, etc..
If I have any other things I will list it.
saxongifts
Sep 18 2003, 08:20 AM
krazykickz
I was think more along the lines of using a drop shipper rather than becoming one. But your info is great for those planning of venturing in that direction.
My dilemma is using a drop shipper that doesn't have real time access to their inventory and a customer might have to wait 6-8 weeks to receive an item.
Also, the wholesaler I'm thinking of doing business with ships orders 3-5 business days after receiving the order. I ship all my products same or next business day. What are peoples thoughts on that? How can I expect customers to react to waiting 3-5 days before the item even leaves the door? I’m torn because the items are high value and there is a good profit margin – plus they are the only wholesale that drops ships these items in the USA.
krazykickz
Sep 18 2003, 09:20 AM
Hi,
well being a drop shipping client also becomes a hassle for the same reasons that you mentioned. Most site do not update their stock automatically.
Also, from my experience drop shippers either take so long to ship that your customers are emailing you non-stop asking when their stuff is going to come or when it is shipped, or it has not arrived. and/or it arrived damaged.
Hedon
Sep 27 2003, 03:31 PM
I've pretty much have had a good experience drop shipping. The company doing the drop shipping for you does make a big difference: you want one who is reliable and responsive. The company I deal with usually ships within a business day.
When it comes to backorders, I've found a lot of customers will wait. Our backorders can come in anywhere from a few days to a month later. Warn your customers (as well as you can) about the potential wait, and then let them decide what they want to do. I have had them follow up with me a few weeks later, but none of them have seemed angry about the whole thing.
About this...
"Also, the wholesaler I'm thinking of doing business with ships orders 3-5 business days after receiving the order. "
Maybe, for these items, add a note under the item that says something like 'usually ships within 3-5 business days' (or 4-5 days, depending on when you can get the orders to the wholesaler). That way the customer can decide before ordering whether this is right for them.
krazykickz
Sep 27 2003, 03:46 PM
nice advice
saxongifts
Sep 27 2003, 06:15 PM
Hedon:
Thanks for the rock solid advice. Just what the doctor ordered.
Much obliged.
matt@gauge
Sep 30 2003, 04:36 PM
Well if I may put my input here. I have been doing drop shipping for a little over 3-years now. Just recently this year we starting stocking items in our warehouse. The main thing is to run the manufactures full line as well as make sure the manufacture is able to provide tracking numbers within a timely manner. We typically get all drop ship tracking numbers within 24-hours which works out awesome because I am able to enter those tracking numbers and most customers never know the difference. One thing the software does really need is a way for you to change the shipping method, so say like if a drop ship went UPS and the customer selected FEDEX shipping online you could change that from the backside and when they went to track the order it would go to the right carriers site. If anyone is interested in checking out our site see the link below.
Matthew Petro
Vice President
Gauge Media Group Inc.
http://store.gaugemagazine.com matt@gaugemagazine.com
MonsterCEO
Oct 15 2003, 11:21 PM
Hey guys-
Check out DropShipSource.com.
If any of you use the list, let me know what you think. We are considering some form of partnership where you can buy stores preloaded with items. Let me know what you think of this idea!
-gup
Todd Patterson
Oct 18 2003, 07:04 PM
The whole drop shipping issue is actually very easy to use with

Commerce. We have 4 seperate companies now that do drop shipments for us. At the time that we receive an order we just fax them over the order details for them (as the drop ship e-mailing does not work properly yet in 4.0 but is in the bug fix stage).
Generally, our suppliers send out the packages the same day or the next day. When they receive our order and reply with confirmation then we adjust our order through the MC cart to "In Progress". Most drop shippers that we have dealt with will also send you back the tracking number so that you can inform your customers and then they can track the order right on your site.
The hardest part that we discovered was finding some decent drop shippers.
If you have any other questiones, just ask away. This is really a very profitable method of business as you are paid for your product(s) prior to your actually ordering them!
Todd Patterson
Oct 18 2003, 07:07 PM
| QUOTE (robert @ Sep 17 2003, 10:56 AM) |
We've been asked to be a drop shipper but my concern has been that someone might sell something that is out of stock. We can usually get more of the item, but since we import from Indonesia it could take as long as 3 months (one month for the artisan to make after we order, a month on a ship, customs delays, and waiting for our next container to leave port).
This has led us to say know.
If there would be a way for drop shippers to link to our inventory so that our "out of stock" items are known to them in real time, that would be great!
Anyone solved this problem yet? |
Each night I receive an updated inventory listing from our suppliers via fax. After dealing with them for a little while I have gotten to know what quantites to look for on the fast movers. That way, I just review the list and if an item is going to be quickly depleted then I will disable the ordering status on it. The same applies for price changes, which can be quite regular. Most of them highlight the new prices in the fax (bold or different type) so that they are easy to spot.
Todd Patterson
Oct 18 2003, 07:18 PM
Here a suggestion that several of us did on e-bay a few months ago. There were 8 of us that went together and purchased some large quantites of a couple of differrent items. That gave us the buying power to get the items at super great prices. Within about 1 month after that, we had all pretty much sold out of our products. We then turned around and just simply re-invested it and did the same thing again on a different product.
With the Christmas season coming on, this could possibly be an excellent way to gain some great products at prices that you would not otherwise be able to get.
Hedon
Oct 22 2003, 09:44 PM
saxongifts - you're welcome.
krazykickz - thanks.
Hedon
Oct 24 2003, 09:09 PM
We've now just really had a bad experience with a backorder. Hopefully, one we'll learn from.
The customer asked when we would get the order in. We called our dropshipper, and then responded to the customer with the date the fulfillment house provided. Unfortunately, the item didn't come in. This upset the customer very deeply, and eventually led to a cancelled order. We did ask the customer what we should have done instead, but we must have asked it in the wrong way because the customer said our response was rude.
Any suggestions on how to handle this next time? We will re-read our emails before sending them out from now on. It's just now we're not sure how to respond to "when will it come in?"
Thanks.
krazykickz
Oct 24 2003, 09:11 PM
| QUOTE (Hedon @ Oct 24 2003, 09:09 PM) |
We've now just really had a bad experience with a backorder. Hopefully, one we'll learn from.
The customer asked when we would get the order in. We called our dropshipper, and then responded to the customer with the date the fulfillment house provided. Unfortunately, the item didn't come in. This upset the customer very deeply, and eventually led to a cancelled order. We did ask the customer what we should have done instead, but we must have asked it in the wrong way because the customer said our response was rude.
Any suggestions on how to handle this next time? We will re-read our emails before sending them out from now on. It's just now we're not sure how to respond to "when will it come in?"
Thanks. |
This is the downfall of drop shipping. You have to make sure your dropshippers are reliable.
BratPack
Oct 25 2003, 10:53 AM
I drop ship all my products. The directory that I use is @
www.dropshipsource.com. It costs to use the directory, but the companies in the directory are great to deal with. The only thing is, when I look for a drop shipper, I make sure they sell only a certain type of product with a lot of stock. Not 2 items here and 1 item there. It's too much of a headache to hope the stock will be there tomorrow when you get an order and that's when you are sure to get upset customers.
Jennifer
Packin' It
Hedon
Nov 4 2003, 10:58 PM
I found my dropshipper through www.dropshipsource.com. This is the first time they've let me down - they've been great so far.
Thanks though.
jjielectronics
Nov 5 2003, 01:04 AM
Just to put my 2 cents in....
My company is all about drop shipped. We stock nothing and have everything shipped for us. We get great prices from our suppliers because we move tons of product.
Drop shipping works if you find companies that are reliable and work with you.
I recommend it.
Edward Jenkins
JJI Electronics
newbie
Nov 5 2003, 04:24 AM
| QUOTE (Hedon @ Oct 24 2003, 09:09 PM) |
We've now just really had a bad experience with a backorder. Hopefully, one we'll learn from.
The customer asked when we would get the order in. We called our dropshipper, and then responded to the customer with the date the fulfillment house provided. Unfortunately, the item didn't come in. This upset the customer very deeply, and eventually led to a cancelled order. We did ask the customer what we should have done instead, but we must have asked it in the wrong way because the customer said our response was rude.
Any suggestions on how to handle this next time? We will re-read our emails before sending them out from now on. It's just now we're not sure how to respond to "when will it come in?"
Thanks. |
I just wanted to add to this post. The same thing happend to us before with a dropshipper.
I first of all let the customer know it is backordered. And then I keep a list on my whiteboard of the date things are comming in.
It looks like this for example.
Backorders
Nov 3
1255
1366
1555
Nov 10
1655
1699
1658
On those date I email the supplier and see if its ready to ship.
As long as your supplier is good at keeping up with emails it works out well. You can then keep your customer updated. Also any customer who orders from catalogs or a larger online store is used to waiting up to 3 weeks for items at times.
It only gets sticky at the end of DEC.
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Hedon
Nov 5 2003, 10:20 PM
I never thought of a whiteboard - that's a good idea. And fortunately my supplier is responsive to emails.
Thanks!
newbie
Nov 6 2003, 05:18 AM
No problem, you just have to organize it all, this way when your up to hundreds of orders a day you can handle it all...lol
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