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brassunicorn
Does the monstersmile.gif shopping cart support favicons?

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Ewestforth
It doesn't really have to do with the shopping cart itself.
Just go into ftp and upload your favicon.ico to the root directory.

The icon you create has to be exactly 16 pixels by 16 pixels. There are some alternative larger sizes, but only use these if you've investigated favicon use very thoroughly. The safest route is definitely 16x16. Try to fool the browser with a larger or smaller size and it will usually ignore you. You should also stick with 16 Windows colors. Again, more colors can be used in sophisticated icons, but 16 is your safest bet.

Hope that helps biggrin.gif
brassunicorn
Sounds good but reviewing the source after making the modifications we find the "Home Page Header HTML Editor acctually inserts code after the head </head> * and in a table down the page - the link doesn't get picked up. Is the editor supposed to put code in the head as it seems to be labled? whistling.gif

Also the site generated <title> in the head of every single page certainly runs havoc with search engines. One search engine has listed our company name 27000 times but missed all the products. One might think it would be pretty easy to pull the auto generated <title> out of the old code. While we have spent $$$$ getting our metanames all tricked out for the products - most search engines won't see past the <title> and if repeated on every single product page - (we're talkin' over 1300 pages here) is probably even be seen as spam. sad.gif
Ewestforth
Im really not sure what that has to do with a favicon.ico
All you do is put the icon in your root directory.
There is no coding or html needed at all.
When someone adds a site to their favorites, their browser looks to see if www.url.com/favicon.ico exists. If it does, then it uses the icon.
If it doesn't it uses the default icon.
Just take your icon, name it favicon.ico then upload it to your site.
brassunicorn
You are right, I was being persnippity about my own issues with the <head> and misread their article... sorry. blink.gif Yes, I see where it is supposed to find it automatically. Msnd also mentions:
QUOTE
After creating the icon, you must associate it with your Web page. One way is to save the icon with the default file name of favicon.ico in the root directory of your domain—for example, www.microsoft.com/favicon.ico. Each time your Web page is added to a user's favorites, Internet Explorer automatically searches for this file and places the icon next to all the favorites and quick links originating from your site.

You can also associate the icon with your Web page by saving the icon with a file name other than favicon.ico and adding a line of HTML code in the head section of your Web document. The line of code includes a link tag that specifies the location and name of the file. You can include this link tag on a per-page basis.

<HEAD>
  <LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="http://www.mydomain.com/myicon.ico">
  <TITLE>My Title</TITLE>
</HEAD>
I will try some of the other suggestions they have for getting it to show up. Thank you for the input. biggrin.gif
ultimatekeychains
I just want to point out one "key" statement in the previous post:

QUOTE
Internet Explorer automatically searches for this file and places the icon next to all the favorites and quick links originating from your site.


Although IE is the most used browser at this point... dropping the favicon.ico in the root may not automatically work for visitors using other browsers. Personally, we don't care if it doesn't show up for those 5% of visitors due to this...a favorite icon isn't critical. biggrin.gif Just wanted to point it out for anyone who missed it.

Also... Looking to make a Favorite Icon for your site? Check out the Icon Creation Program. This is makes it pretty simple to create a them!
brassunicorn
Hiya, I certainly agree, a favicon is not critical, but - we are ultimatly all in the business of marketing - and sometimes, the littlest things can give you that extra edge.

I did get the favicon to show up, but I had to use favorg.exe to get it. I suspect there may be too much going on with the rest of the page as it is loading for ie to find it easily. Anyone see it pop in automatically? BrassUnicorn.com


I will suggest monstersmile.gif insert their own favicon at the top of the generic root structure user posted image with an option to toggle it on or off. If venders wish to update it with their own image they can.
user posted image

Thanks again for your input.
santoshashop
Just thought I'd add my 2 cents re: favicons. Not having one has its advantages. By checking you stats (for example, if you use Urchin) you can get a sense of how many people are adding your site to their "Favorites" bookmark. Everytime an IE user bookmarks your site your log file registers an "error" (the user does not see this error) because it looks for the favicon but doesn't find it. If you are an Urchin user then just look for "Referral errors" to get a count of how many times this happens. I find this encourageing, if not helpful info!

Sal
www.santoshashop.com
brassunicorn
Very good point ... thanks Sal! biggrin.gif
Ewestforth
Sal that is a really interesting way to look at it. I am now considering removing my favicon. I have to give it more thought. The advantage of having a favicon in my opinion is if a customer has a long favorites list of the places he/she likes to shop and the customer is in a browsing/shopping mood the icon may give you an edge where they may click your site before the others just because it stands out more in their favorites list. They both have small advantages, the trouble is figuring out which is more beneficial.
zymetrical
I think having an actual link to bookmark your site is more important than having an icon, or no icon - that is all secondary. I don't understand why everyone focuses on having that instead of enabling people to actually bookmark the site.

When people are on the internet they have a very short attention span, so few will take the time, or even think to add your site to their favorites unless you have a link of some sort. I have a bookmark link on every page of my company's site and I can tell you that it is being bookmarked alot as a result.

There are ways of tracking that information through Urchin while still having a favicon.ico - through (Top Exits) and (Top Paths), although both are not as easy or accurate as the other method mentioned. This will still give you an idea of whether people are bookmarking the site. Also, if you look at (Top Entrances) I believe this will tell you how many people are entering through a bookmark, but I could be misreading the information.

Brian
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