kay
Nov 12 2003, 11:44 AM
Hi. I'm just starting my store, so I want to make sure I do this correctly. In Yahoo, it was difficult to get images submitted with a Froogle data feed. You had to name the images with the exact name of the product name or it wouldn't be picked up due to the dynamic nature of Yahoo's server.
Question: Do you have guidelines as to what to name our images so that Froogle, etc. will display them? Thanks!
krazykickz
Nov 12 2003, 01:19 PM
Hi,
I would recommend naming your products without any appreviations and add a little description to it.
For example we sell shoes, so we would say:
Nike Air Force 1 Low White/White
Here is a post for you to read on froogle, that is going to be added to

:
Click here to read the post!
ultimatekeychains
Nov 12 2003, 05:10 PM
Krazy,
Unless I miss understood, I think that kay was referring to a naming convention for "images" not the product titles.
Ewestforth
Nov 12 2003, 05:14 PM
One thing I heard about Google(not sure about froogle) is that it treats hyphens"-" and underscores"_" differently. Supposedly a hyphen is treated as a space and an underscore is treated as a connecter.
So,
HELLO-WORLD.jpg would look like HELLO WORLD to google.
&
HELLO_WORLD.jpg would look like HELLOWORLD to google.
If this is true its something to take in mind when naming your pictures for keywords.
Captain
Nov 12 2003, 05:19 PM
Ewestforth,
You are right on the money.
>> Use hyphen's, not underscores.
ultimatekeychains
Nov 12 2003, 07:58 PM
I always use hyphen's, but that's definately good to know! Thanks guys!
krazykickz
Nov 12 2003, 08:43 PM
Hey ultimate you are right...lol
kay
Nov 12 2003, 10:23 PM
Thanks! Glad to know about the hyphen - whew. That saved me a lot of work.
Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
Product name: Pacifica SUV
Part number: 1234
Image name: red-pacifica-by-chrysler.jpg
Will Froogle link the image with the product name? The reason I ask now, is that many Yahoo store owners didn't know that they had to use 1234.jpg for the image name to have Froogle pick it up. HOWEVER, I think that's because Yahoo's path to images is dynamic.
Those of you who have had their MC store picked up by Froogle: Did it make a difference what you used for the image name?
ultimatekeychains
Nov 12 2003, 11:40 PM
Nope. Froogle auto indexed some of my store with no problem. As for the new feed that

plans to provide it will also not matter. Some of our items are listed with image names like 1222.gif and others are findingnemo-dory.gif. No difference to Froggle at all.
Some people may tell you that using "keywords" in your image names may help rankings, and it might, but I don't think it would make a huge difference. Just my opinion here thou.
I think it's pretty much whatever is easier for you. Personally I like to just use item numbers. It makes it much easier to locate what I'm looking for and keeps the file names relatively small.
Terri
Nov 12 2003, 11:50 PM
This is great to know cuz I JUST signed up for the Froogle-ing and was dreading whatever the 'data feed' was...
Terri
Captain
Nov 13 2003, 11:16 AM
We are Beta testing the new MonsterCommerce Froogle Feed. Give us a few more weeks and we will deploy!
krazykickz
Nov 13 2003, 12:09 PM
Man,
I am going to have to remember this when doing my new images, i was using the underscore.
Captain
Nov 13 2003, 12:10 PM
I made the same mistake about 1 year ago... with with some of my pages and images. Still trying to pick up the pieces.
KMurray
Nov 13 2003, 04:10 PM
So what happens if you just put the space between the words, rather than the hyphens what would the impact be?
For example; Search for the Perfect Swing verses Search-for-the-Perfect-Swing
krazykickz
Nov 13 2003, 04:13 PM
| QUOTE (KMurray @ Nov 13 2003, 04:10 PM) |
So what happens if you just put the space between the words, rather than the hyphens what would the impact be?
For example; Search for the Perfect Swing verses Search-for-the-Perfect-Swing |
I do not think you can use spaces. Some programs will automatically make them hyphens if you do or spaces will come up with an error. Is this right?
ultimatekeychains
Nov 13 2003, 04:17 PM
You can use a space if you really want.

does allow spaces in the file names. However, it would then be replaced with %20. Thus a file named:
Search for the Perfect Swing
would be
Search%20for%20the%20Perfect%20Swing
I'm not sure how search engines look upon this thou.
kay
Nov 14 2003, 01:30 PM
Megan Buckley (MC staff member) just sent me a note that I thought I'd share.
".. descriptive image names have the additional benefit of being logged within Urchin Site Statistics. So, if you have requested site statistics enabled for your store, you will be able to see what the top visited images are on your site, and thus top visited products."
So, I'm going to use files names that contain the product name.
Captain
Nov 14 2003, 02:12 PM
Thanks Kay... I didn't know that!
Scorpio
Nov 14 2003, 03:52 PM
| QUOTE |
| Search%20for%20the%20Perfect%20Swing |
Stick with the hyphens between the words, a % sign is a stop character to a spider, which is not what you want in your naming conventions.
ultimatekeychains
Nov 14 2003, 05:40 PM
Thanks Chris. That's Good To Know%
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