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Javahead
Yes, I am putting this is the Top of Page HTML area. Like I said before I have not had it installed for very long so I can not really say how well it works, but I have seen stats from previous days that I was trying to get the old script to work. So that I would guess is promising.
Javahead
QUOTE(rubberstampingfun @ Nov 21 2005, 10:38 AM)
One question,

Since the secure ssl code will not be cached on the users computer, placing this in the top of every http:// page will make the user reload this code...correct?

I took a look at the _utm.js code and it is pretty fat. Wouldn't a better workaround be to place the non-secure _utm.js reference on all non-secure pages and placing this workaround only on checkout pages?

Just a question...
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I would say that this would be the ideal, I do not know if stats will be incorrect by using the https:// version on all pages, but it is worth a shot, and is a temporary solution until monstersmile.gif/Google can find a permanent one.
Javahead
Is anyone seeing actual monitary conversion info from Google Analytics? I have been checking and nothing has ever shown and Ecommerce Analytics.
cnmor
Help!!!

Ok - i getting data off my asp pages but I need to put the script on my html pages. I can't figure out how to get my code. Google help says
QUOTE
you can access your personalized tracking code in its entirety by clicking Check Status in the Analytics Settings page of your Analytics account.
but i can't find that link.

I checked my source on monstersmile.gif asp pages and it just has
<script src="__utm.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

what am I missing (besides a few brain cells) ???
Javahead
In Google Analytics "Analytics Settings" page click on the "Edit" link under "Settings" . At the top right of the next page, "Profile Settings", there is a link "Check Status" that link will take you to the page that will give you the code. That had to hide it, thats Google for you.
cnmor
Javahead,

All i see is Analytics Home then website profiles then cablesnmor.com view reports.

I don't see any way to get to an Analytics Settings page.

do you think its the scid number that's in the url of the analytic home page?
https: //www.google.com/analytics/home/admin?scid=XXXXX

I guess i could just try it and see.
Javahead
QUOTE(cnmor @ Nov 22 2005, 01:52 PM)
Javahead,

All i see is Analytics Home then website profiles then cablesnmor.com view reports.

I don't see any way to get to an Analytics Settings page.

do you think its the scid number that's in the url of the analytic home page?
https: //www.google.com/analytics/home/admin?scid=XXXXX

I guess i could just try it and see.
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On that same line under "Website Profiles" click on the "Edit" Link under the "Settings" section. Then click the "Check Status" at the Top Right. THe number is partially the scid from the link, but it is not the complete one.
cnmor
unfortunately I don't have an edit link. Oh well. Since most of my organic traffic comes in thru my html pages urchin 6 is useless without that code.

thanks for your help Javahead
Javahead
DOes anyone at monstersmile.gif know when we will be able to track actual ecommerce stats with this? There is a bit of code that must be added to the cart that we, to my knowledge, are not able to add, See link http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bi...wer=27203&hl=en
rungreen
http://www.sitepronews.com/

Google Analytics

The second monumental event to occur recently was Google Analytics. Google Analytics is a frëe web-stats solution which not only reports all the regular site stats, but also integrates directly with Google AdWords giving webmasters an insight into the ROI of their pay-per-click ads. According to Google, "Google Analytics tells you everything you want to know about how your visitors found you and how they interact with your site."




Why is this such a landmark move? Because for the first time ever, Google will have access to your real web stats. And these stats will be far more accurate than those provided by Alexa. Furthermore, Google's privacy statement says: "We may also use personal information for auditing, research and analysis to operate and improve Google technologies and services.". Nöw let's put two and two together:

1) Google is 'giving' every webmaster in the world frëe access to quality web-stats.
2) Millïons of webmasters will accept this 'gift', if only because it integrates directly with their Google AdWords campaigns.
3) Google will then have full access to the actual web stats of millïons of commercial websites.
4) Google will have the right to use these stats to develop new technologies.
5) What's the next logical step? Google will use these statistics to help determine its rankings.

It should come as no surprise. It's been on the cards for a long time. For example, Jayde Online CEO, Mel Strocen, recently published an article on this very topic, The Future of WebSite Ranking. He quite rightly asserts that:


"Google's "democratic" vision of the Web will nevër be achieved by manipulating algorithm criteria based on content. It will only be achieved by factoring in what is important to people, and people will always remain the best judge of what that is. The true challenge for search engines in the future is how to incorporate web searcher input and preferences into their ranking algorithms."



In fact, the Jayde Online network already owns and operates a search engine, ExactSeek which incorporates user popularity statistics in its rankings.
ArcoJedi
To give a quick update on this, I have combined many threads that deal with Urchin and Google Analytics into one thread. Concerning clients wanting to add Google Analytics that did not have Urchin On Demand, we are going to have more definitive answers on how to add this. You will want to be careful for now not to add the code directly from Google Analytics to your site unless it uses the HTTPS secure source.

Our system for Urchin On Demand used a local file that had all the relevant code, hence the reference to the local file here -
CODE
<script src="__utm.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
- The code for this local file, line for line is about the same size as the code in the remote file both pre- and post-release for Google Analytics -
CODE
<script src="https://ssl.google-analytics.com/urchin.js"type="text/javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-XXXXX-X";
urchinTracker();
</script>


Over this weekend, we will be testing two implementations of Google Analytics for an MC site. The one new method will simply modify the local "__utm.js" to point from the URLs with Urchin to the new URLs with Google. Another method will use the secure code URL that we have found {and Javahead posted about above} in a top of page editor. All clients who were using Urchin On Demand have the local .JS file and this will stay the same. Google has indicated that this should continue to work as always. No clients will be modified for this, only active test stores.

The results will be compared on Monday. Most likely all three options will work, but I'm looking for differences. From there we will have a really accurate picture of how this should best be implemented.

Also, for those that were going to sign up for Google Analytics directly, I was told today that Google's sign up page was disabled, with a form for those interested in when it reopens -
http://www.google.com/analytics/sign_up.html
QUOTE
Google Analytics has experienced extremely strong demand, and as a result, we have temporarily limited the number of new signups as we increase capacity. In the meantime, please submit your name and email address and we will notify you as soon as we are ready to add new accounts. Thank you for your patience.
- Not surprising, that it was so popular they got temporarily overwhelmed.
ArcoJedi
The Google Analytics home page -
http://www.google.com/analytics/
- has been updated with the following text -
QUOTE
Over the last week, we've experienced extraordinarily high demand for Google Analytics, so much that we've had to disable new signups to ensure the best possible user experience for our customers. We are aware that some of our users have experienced a slow-down in seeing their reporting data due to the huge demand, and we're working hard to make report data as fresh and current as possible.

We are also diligently adding more capacity so that we can re-open signups as soon as possible. If you want to be notified about when signups will re-open, please enter your e-mail address on our signup page. We are grateful for the interest that you and the entire online community has in Google Analytics.
Javahead
Do you know if this will enable stores that were using Urchin 5 to now be able to track ecommerce stats with Google Analytics?

I am receiveing stats from Google Analytics now but am not able to receive eccomerce stats due to not being able to insert the proper code in the checkout process.

Edit: Is there any news on this?
ArcoJedi
I have a short update.

Firstly, new signups for Google Analytics still appear to be on hold. Google is also indicating on many of their help pages that the index of stats are delayed, though they will be coming faster and they are 100% accurate.

Secondly, I also found the instructions (this may have already been posted) to add Google Analytics to a secure web site.
http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bi...py?answer=29600
The page has instructions for adding the code exactly as I described for one of our tests above -
CODE
<script src="https://ssl.google-analytics.com/urchin.js"type="text/javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-XXXXX-X";
urchinTracker();
</script>

So this at least answers the question of 'Can it be done?'

Our tests over the weekend worked fine with this code added into the top of page editor on a site that DID NOT currently have the "__utm.js" reference. So this appears to be the best suggestion right now for clients using Urchin 5.0 and that were not previously using Urchin On Demand.

From what I can tell, for those clients who were on Urchin On Demand that have not changed anything, the stats are still collecting correctly, though a day or two behind. This should continue to work for the time being.

For the other site I mentioned in my previous post, I personally modified the local "__utm.js" file to point to the new Google Analytics server as opposed to the old Urchin servers. The logs for this site quickly dropped from pageviews in the thousands to 0 after last Wednesday and they continued to get regular orders over the weekend, so this is obviously not working. Either I did something wrong to the "__utm.js" file OR the system was simply not designed to work this way.

There are still some unanswered questions about this, I'm sure, but I wanted to let you know what we know so far. Thanks!
Javahead
I am getting stats perfectly, EXCEPT I am not able to receive sales stats. Has this been touched at all?
shaggs
Any one know the status on siging up from Google?
I first tried signing up about 3+ weeks ago and have still yet to recivece confirmation or communication for that matter.

all i get is this message on the site and it hasnt changed since i first tried to register:

"Thank you for your interest in Google Analytics!
Google Analytics has experienced extremely strong demand, and as a result, we have temporarily limited the number of new signups as we increase capacity. In the meantime, please submit your name and email address and we will notify you as soon as we are ready to add new accounts. Thank you for your patience."
ArcoJedi
The last I checked and by my understanding, they were still keeping new signups from adding sites. However, I think they are 'incrementally' rolling out new accounts on a first-come first-serve basis -- so if you have not signed up for updates at their sign up page and want to add a new account, go ahead now.

You can read about their progress here -
http://www.google.com/analytics/progress.html

Thanks,
BubbleSupply.com
Hello Everyone,

I feel the need to bring up this topic again...

When will monstersmile.gif have a "REAL" fix for the Google Analytic issue? When there was a charge for the service a code was installed to our sites on the same day. Now that there is no earning potential the code cannot be installed??? Please help me understand.

Don't you ( monstersmile.gif ) want your customers to be successful and know where to advertise?

ps. Happy Holidays to Everyone!
ArcoJedi
BubbleSupply,

Thank you for bringing up this question. With Urchin On Demand, there was a local file added manually by a senior tech support representative to your site that they created through the Urchin On Demand interface. This JS file was loaded in the <head /> of every page and pulled in the statistics data.

With Google Analytics, they have NOT enabled or created a method through the new interface to create this JS file. In other words, for the Urchin On Demand clients, the old JS file will still work most likely as well as it had before. For new Google Analytics users, however, there is so far no way to create this JS file. In the future, there may be, but quite possibly not.

Unfortunately, Google Analytics still has somewhat of a freeze on new accounts, so there is not a way to add new profiles at this time, though I know for a fact they have started to slowly loosen this for existing users. For instance, anyone who had at least ONE profile under their Google Account can now add up to FIVE profiles. However, for MonsterCommerce, who had over 400+ profiles, we can't add any more. We most likely won't need to at any rate, as clients can just as easily manage these accounts on their own once there is open sign-ups. How the code for the tracking will be added, in the <head /> or top of page editor is still an open question, but most features work in the top of page editor at this point.

We want you to get all of the details that we can, and easy tools to manage and view this data. However, there simply isn't a way to add a file that we don't have. Sorry for the confusion.
minorgod
QUOTE(MonsterMod @ Nov 28 2005, 05:12 PM)
...Secondly, I also found the instructions (this may have already been posted) to add Google Analytics to a secure web site. 
http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bi...py?answer=29600
The page has instructions for adding the code exactly as I described for one of our tests above ...



I have some code I think you will like that will look at your web address and automatically insert the proper secure or non-secure code for google urchin tracking. Simply create a javascript file called urchin_redirector.js and paste the following code inside....
CODE

var currentURL = document.location;
if(currentURL.substring(0,5) == "https"){

document.write('<script src="https://ssl.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">
      </script><script type="text/javascript">
    _uacct = "UA-XXXXXX-X";
    urchinTracker();
    </script>'
    );


}else{
document.write('<script src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">
      </script><script type="text/javascript">
    _uacct = "UA-XXXXXX-X";
    urchinTracker();
    </script>'
    );
}


Then in all your pages, simply use the following in place of your existing urchin code...
CODE

<script language="JavaScript" src="urchin_redirector.js" type="text/javascript"></script>


Don't forget to insert your own account number.

This code has been tested only slightly, so use at your own risk. It's very very simple, so I don't see much chance for errors but you should do your own tests to verify that it's working properly for you.
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